1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 This time on Chasing UFOs. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 There's no quite a aircraft, I'll tell you that. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 It probably moved 100 miles in a matter of a second. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 An intriguing video of an unknown object 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 leads writer Ben and James to the Colorado Rockies 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 to learn more about this mystery. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 We all know we've seen the same thing that day. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Something that's not known, this planet at all. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 But their investigation takes a turn 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 when the team learns that some locals believe 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,000 these objects are linked with strange, gruesome animal mutilations. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 They beam that animal up into the spacecraft, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 do what they have to, then bring it back 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 and drop it back into that field. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Searching for a connection, 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 the team hears of a mysterious menace 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 that may have its sights on more than just animals. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Their eyes were so blue they were almost violent. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 It may also be targeting humans. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 James, James, do you copy? 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 What's going on, James? 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Oh, get the f*** out of here. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 What we have here is not any earthly craft. 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Did you see that? 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 There's usually a more conventional explanation 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 for unidentified things that people are seeing 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 if you take the time to look for them. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 For the first time in my life, 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I'm caught believing that the possibility of UFOs 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 is all too real. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 For me to be out here looking for evidence, 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 this is it. This is what I live for. 33 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 This is what I've been dreaming about. 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Oh, my God! 35 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Wow! 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Check this out. 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Rocky Mountains. 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 I love these greens right here. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000 So beautiful. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 We're on our way to Salida, Colorado, 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 just north of the San Luis Valley. 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 This area is a hotbed for UFO activity 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 with reports of sightings going back years. 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 There's a family there that shot one of the most compelling 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 UFO videos we've ever seen. 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Okay, well, let's check out the Tim Edwards video 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 that is actually getting us to Colorado here. 48 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 We'll get the binoculars. 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 It moved over that part of the sky there. 50 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 It probably moved 500. 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 It probably moved 100 miles in a matter of a second. 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 You can kind of see what looks like 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 balls kind of rotating around the outside. 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 They're actually talking about it on the video. 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Is that a big one? 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Is he going? 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Did you see it? 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 If you look at Tim Edwards' video closely, 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 the object looks like a tear in the fabric of space. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 To me, it's amazing footage. 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Then you can see there's points of reference. 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 There's the roof there. 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 You can see a little of them until you could 64 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 theoretically differentiate the movement of the craft 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 to the movement of the camera. 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 There ain't no little airplane that moves five miles in two seconds. 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Sure, it's pretty jerky. 68 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 There's something about the video that doesn't add up to me. 69 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 The movement of the object with respect to the house in frame 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 with respect to the camera movement, 71 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 it's not following both the way it should. 72 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Something's wrong. 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 More and more people in the town admitted to having the same sighting. 74 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 And then, when that got out in the press, 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 we were able to connect the dots and find out that in four other states, 76 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 around the same time other people were seeing this craft in the air. 77 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 It's not only a video, it ends up being a mass sighting 78 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 seen over multiple states. 79 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 If it's not a UFO, then what is it? 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 If it is a UFO, then where's it coming from? 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Unfortunately, Tim Edwards has since passed, 82 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 but we've contacted his family and Brandy, 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 the daughter that you actually hear in the video, she's six at the time, 84 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 as well as Bob Edwards, Tim's father. 85 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 They were willing to talk to us. 86 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Now, didn't your son call you all week? 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Oh, yes, he called. 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 They watched it for close to an hour. 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 How old were you at the time? 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 I was six. 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 So you were six years old. Do you remember it well? 92 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Yes, I do. 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 We were supposed to go on a camping trip that day, 94 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 so my father told me to go outside and go see if it was good or rain. 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 So as I went outside, when I was looking up in the sky, 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 I noticed a cigar-shaped object just hovering around. 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 So I went and got my dad. 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Took him a few moments to realize, you know, what the object was. 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 He's no kind of aircraft, I'll tell you that. 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 And he went and he filmed it. 101 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 But I remember it actually going like out and then going back in. 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 It looked like it was kind of like growing. 103 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Did you see it? 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Right at his hill. 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 It was darting from place to place, 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 and the balls were coming out of it. 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 You keep looking at it, and you can see like a ball going around it. 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 There ain't no little airplane that moves five miles in two seconds. 109 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 To me, it darted. I mean, it was so fast that you could see it here, 110 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 you could see it there, here. 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Was it like it blinked out in one spot and then reappeared another, 112 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 or did it actually move? 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 It was like in different places. 114 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 First move, more than five miles. 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 It probably moved a hundred miles in a matter of a second. 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 It's very unique, A, to have daytime footage, 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 and B, to have multiple eyewitnesses at the same time. 118 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Do you disagree with each other on any points about what you remember seeing? 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 We all know we've seen the same thing that day. 120 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Something that's not, I don't think, from this planet at all. 121 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000 We coming, peace? 122 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 It's interesting to me that people found out who were in the area 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 investigating UFOs and showed up to tell their stories. 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 It looked like a giant hotel. 125 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Very, very big. 126 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Wow. 127 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Yeah, it's just huge. 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 I would say it was about a couple school buses big. 129 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Interesting. 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,000 I definitely cannot look up at the sky at night 131 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 the same way as I did before that moment. 132 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 The picture is amazing. 133 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Was it moving when you shot the picture? 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 It must have been because it followed a log there 135 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 for about 100 miles, and then I looked up and I looked real. 136 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Clearly, something really amazing is going on here. 137 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 After speaking with the Edwards family and some locals, 138 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,000 we found out we're the most recent UFO sightings were taking place, 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 and we were able to target our investigation. 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 So we're headed west, up into the mountains, 141 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 to get a vantage of the entire area. 142 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Unfortunately, getting there is going to be pretty difficult, 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 so I've arranged some alternative transportation. 144 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Oh! 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 I think we're gonna have to hike in from here. 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 I've never been on a field trek like this. 147 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 No woman ever left behind. 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 I hate snowshoeing. 149 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 All right, guys. 150 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Looks like we're inching in on the sightings area. 151 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Figure we stage a base camp down here and do sweeps out from here. 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 It's gonna be a lot... 153 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Come on, keep saying we're gonna see something. 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 We better see something. 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 To cover more ground, we decided to split up. 156 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Ben's got the telescope and he's positioned himself on a vantage point, 157 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 facing south over the entire valley. 158 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 James and I have an infrared camera, 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 and we're going to take a look at the entire area. 160 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 So we're going to get a little closer to the top of the mountain. 161 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 We're gonna take a little closer to the top of the mountain. 162 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 We're going to take a little closer to the top of the mountain. 163 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 We're gonna take a little closer to the top of the mountain. 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 James and I have an infrared camera and a thermal camera, 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 and we found another vantage point looking north, not too far away. 166 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 I inverted the colors just to show how cold it is. 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 On the ground right here, yeah, that would be eight degrees. 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Let's see how cold you are. 169 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Oh my God, this is the scariest look you've ever had in your life. 170 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 You aged 100 years on this thermal camera. 171 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Hey, hey, if things get really bad out here, 172 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I want you to know that I eat Ben, not you. 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Ben for writer James. Ben for writer James. 174 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Go ahead, Ben. 175 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Yeah, guys, I just wanted to point out that it looks like we've got eyes on a regular flight path. 176 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 We're moving west to East Albert. 177 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 You've got movement over your right shoulder, 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 and then movement right over here. 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,000 But you know what people are describing is not a regular plane. 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 They're saying massive orbs the size of hotels. 181 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Nothing like, you know, just these regular planes that we're seeing right now. 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 All right, well, I'm gonna throw this thing back up on the tripod to get a steadier reading. 183 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 What do you think? 184 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Check it on Ben, see how he's doing. 185 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Okay, sounds good. 186 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 I'll just stay and touch it. 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Okay. 188 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Oh my God. 189 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Where are all these weird lights everyone's talking about? 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Hey, James. 191 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 What's going so fine so far? 192 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 I just trying to calibrate the telescope. 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Whoa, look at that. 194 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Moon coming over the trees. 195 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 It's windy. You can see the air moving. 196 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Wow. 197 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Man, that doesn't look like it's real. 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 That's cool. 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 What the hell was that? 200 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Let's see. 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 What the hell was that? 202 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Look at it flashing. 203 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 I really want to know what that is. 204 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 What the hell was that? 205 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 206 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Rider for Ben and James. 207 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Rider, this is Ben. Go ahead. 208 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 I'm following some stars. 209 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Had my camera pointed upward. 210 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Look down and I get one big flash of white light. 211 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 You know, and the light was gone. 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 You know, were you ever pointed? 213 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Yeah, I'm pointed under a Ryan's belt over here. 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Okay. 215 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 What do you see? 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 I don't see anything. 217 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Frightened unusual. 218 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 All I can see is the moon. 219 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 That moon's blowing everything out. 220 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Damn it. 221 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Let's see. 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 We continue to search the skies until it was clear 223 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 that whatever I saw was gone. 224 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 I know I saw something last night. 225 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 And it's just a shame that we didn't get a better view of it 226 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 because the moon was just way too bright. 227 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Now we're heading to the very epicenter of not only sightings, 228 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 but other potential ET phenomenon. 229 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 I think we're in Colorado. 230 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Cata mutilations are huge here. 231 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 So I think it's just a little bit of a shame 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 that we're in the middle of a storm. 233 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 But the animals are huge here. 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 So I think it's definitely worth an investigation 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 to see why people are tying them to UFOs. 236 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,000 James, I know a storm is you are, so... 237 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Here they are. 238 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 That's just nasty. 239 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 You know how long that cow was... 240 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 But yeah, the entire jaw is just cut away. 241 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 There's got to be some physical evidence of that at the scene. 242 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 I'm skeptical that the alleged mutilations of these animals 243 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 couldn't be caused by natural predators 244 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 or some sort of diseases or the decomposition process. 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 So I'm really curious to see what the ranchers have to say. 246 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 We were able to contact two ranchers in the region 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 who both say that they've had recent cattle mutilations. 248 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Alright, it's the end of the line. 249 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Good luck. 250 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Thanks for the ride. 251 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 You may or may not be back. 252 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Good luck. 253 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Yeah. 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Bye. 255 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Just a young scientist going off for a while. 256 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 I do admire his tenacity. 257 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I really do. 258 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Ben McGee. 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Tom Miller. 260 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Very nice to meet you. 261 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Same here. 262 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 So I hear you had a cattle mutilation recently. 263 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Yeah, I did. 264 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 About four months ago, right out here in this field, 265 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I got a phone call and the neighbor was going by the road here 266 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 and he said, I think you have a dead cow out there. 267 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Got in my pickup and came over here. 268 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Sure enough, there was dead cow there. 269 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 And I got to examining it. 270 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,000 The eyes were gone, the tongue was gone. 271 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Had you ever seen anything like that before? 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Well, actually, I had a couple of them before. 273 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Really? 274 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 The same sort of thing, eyes missing, tongue missing, 275 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 weird holes in it? 276 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Yes. 277 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 The first one was about ten years ago 278 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 and the second one was about two years ago 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 and then this one was about four months ago. 280 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Wow. 281 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Is this the cow? 282 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Yeah, this is part of the hide and that's part of the bones left. 283 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 I didn't know you still had any of it here. 284 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 You know, like this cow, I feed them every morning. 285 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 They were all real healthy and then all of a sudden it's dead. 286 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 If we walk over here, can you show me the actual position 287 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 where it was laying? 288 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Do you remember which way the legs were pointing, 289 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 things like that? 290 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Yeah, the head was pointed that way 291 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,000 and the legs were pointed to the north that way. 292 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,000 The eyes were gone and I guess the big thing, 293 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 there was no blood. 294 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 No blood at all. 295 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 There was no track. 296 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 The only thing it looked like was just it was dead 297 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 and it was dropped here. 298 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Are you saying that you think it was dead before it ended up here? 299 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 That's really what I think. 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Really? 301 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 I don't think necessarily anything extraordinary 302 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 had to happen at this site based on the way it looks 303 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 but that's why I'm taking samples 304 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 to see if radiologically or chemically 305 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 there's any evidence of something exotic. 306 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 How are you? 307 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 James and I are meeting with Mike Durand. 308 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,000 He's a rancher that says he's had more than one cattle mutilation 309 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 on his property and the most recent was just a few years ago. 310 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Where did this most recent incident occur? 311 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 This was right on the bottom down here by these trees. 312 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 What happened was that morning when I went to go feed, 313 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 well the cow wasn't there. 314 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 So I went up on the property and as I looked, 315 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 I looked down here down on the whole meadow 316 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 because you can see from on top of the hill up there, 317 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 you can see everything. 318 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 And I noticed that she was down by the river. 319 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 The cow was right in this area here. 320 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 When I found her, it seemed like she had walked down this trail, 321 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 was going to get some water and then just happened to die 322 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 and just fall over until I found that her udders had been removed 323 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,000 and around the vaginal area that had been removed also. 324 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 And all this right in here is all fresh mud 325 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 and there were no tracks at all. 326 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Wow. Do you believe that extraterrestrials 327 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 are the ones actually doing these mutilations? 328 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 I do believe that. 329 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 They beam that animal up into the spacecraft, 330 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 do what they have to, then bring it back 331 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 and drop it back into that field. 332 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 And that's the reason that we can't find any tracks. 333 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 You've mentioned that before these mutilations happened 334 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 that there's usually a sighting associated with them. 335 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Yes, and shortly before that, 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 it was a bright light in the sky. 337 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 And I watched it, I watched it go and then it just disappeared. 338 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 How is that different from conventional airplanes up in the sky? 339 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Oh, well, you see the blinking lights. 340 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 There's no jet streamer, nothing. 341 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 It's just a white, shiny light. 342 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,000 It's kind of weird that we're talking about this now. 343 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Two nights, well, Monday night, 344 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 we saw a light in the sky also. 345 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 So this very week you had a sighting? 346 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Yes, we did. 347 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Is that a meteorite? 348 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Yup. 349 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 You've mentioned that before these mutilations happened 350 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 that there's usually a sighting associated with them. 351 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Monday night, we saw a light in the sky also, my son and I. 352 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 So this very week you had a sighting? 353 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Yes, we did. 354 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 So there could be a freshly mutilated? 355 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 There could be, because especially if these sightings are happening, 356 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 something's going to be happening soon. 357 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Mike Durand talked about light beams coming out of UFOs and zapping cattle. 358 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Whether or not ETs are involved, I have no idea. 359 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 However, this could be a great opportunity for us to determine 360 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,000 whether or not UFOs and cattle mutilations are connected. 361 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,000 So we're going to bring in the help of local cattle mutilation investigator Chuck Zukowski. 362 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 I've worked at least ten cases out here within the past three years. 363 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Can I ask you something? 364 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Yes, sir. 365 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 What physical evidence on the ground has led you to believe, 366 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,000 in addition to the animal, that something less prosaics going on? 367 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,000 You know, I have an animal sitting here laying dead, no blood, nothing seeping out. 368 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 You have no evidence of human intervention, no footprints, 369 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 no tire tracks coming in, dropping the animal out. 370 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:12,000 For God's sakes, you know, you really have to have something large enough 371 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000 to be able to lift this animal up to do what you need to do to it and drop it back down. 372 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 There's absolutely no trace. 373 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 As investigators, you know, with your experience, 374 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 what trace evidence are we out there looking for? 375 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Well, first thing, you know, obviously you want to take samples. 376 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,000 I would look for just a little cross-section where the lab can actually see 377 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 what caused the incision. 378 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 So you want a couple of those. 379 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 You know, if you have the guts, you can go into the guts. 380 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 You can go in and look. 381 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,000 To further investigate, we decided to take Chuck out with us on our investigation. 382 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 James, can you grab that one for me? 383 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Together, we'll look for a fresh cow carcass 384 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:59,000 to see if there is anything to this theory that UFOs are responsible for these mutilations. 385 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 I'm sorry. 386 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 You want to try and find a mutilated cow? 387 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Yes. 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 I'm with Mom, too. 389 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Right, right. 390 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 All right. 391 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Doing a scan of the mountainside here, 392 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 just in case there's any evidence of a recently mutilated cow. 393 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,000 That's one of the most practical damn uses I've ever seen for a thermal camera in the field. 394 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Looks pretty clear. 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Well, if we do come across a mutilated cattle, 396 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000 at least the cold would preserve it a little bit. 397 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Except the problem is the cold is also damaging it. 398 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 That's what frostbite is. 399 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 If cells actually freeze, they'll break, 400 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 and then you've ruined the chemistry. 401 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 So it's a fine line. 402 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000 You never know what to expect when you come down to places like this. 403 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Watch your footing there. 404 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 It's a little slippery. 405 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Well, Mike Durand was talking about this is like nicknamed the alien field. 406 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Why is that? 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Well, probably because of his cattle mutilation that he had in 2009. 408 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 What kind of wild animals are out here? 409 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 We do have bear. 410 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Is that why you brought, you going with you? 411 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Oh, absolutely. 412 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 I mean, I never venture out any type of environment like this, 413 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 especially when you don't know it's hiding 20 feet in front of you. 414 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Oh, holy s***, you're not messing around. 415 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,000 But we do have to watch out for mountain lions. 416 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000 There was one that was seen earlier tonight. 417 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Just down the street. 418 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Absolutely. 419 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 We're going to be walking down towards the stream. 420 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:13,000 And that's one of their nice stocking areas where other animals go to feed. 421 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 All right. 422 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Let's go this way. 423 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Ah, sweet. 424 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Ah. 425 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Oh, man. 426 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 It's always something, huh? 427 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 What are you looking at? 428 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 That hurt something. 429 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Okay. We have to find another route. 430 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Yeah. 431 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 This should be the area where the mutilation happened. 432 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:11,000 So one of the things we're looking for was a possibility that the animal was up the bank 433 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 and was killed up there and then fell down or rolled down. 434 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 So you look for a scar. 435 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 There was no skin marks. 436 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 There was nothing that showed the possibility that the animal hit and rolled all the way down. 437 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,000 We saw no evidence that the cow even moved while it was dying. 438 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:36,000 What we did see though is we saw half of the animal laying in this purgatory river 439 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,000 and the other half right here. 440 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Where does the blood go? 441 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 That's a good question. Where does the blood go? We don't see it. 442 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 It appears the cow has dropped. 443 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 You were the first professional on site to investigate, right? 444 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 We were the first professional investigators. 445 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 What did you think? Did you know immediately? 446 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Absolutely. I mean, when you start looking at the just the carnage, the incisions, 447 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,000 we knew right off that this wasn't anything that a predator would do. 448 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Okay. 449 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Jesus. 450 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 What? 451 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Four pairs of eyes right there at the tree land. You see that? 452 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 No, I can't see it. I can't see it. 453 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Oh my God, I cannot get this flare working right now. 454 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 I could really use that right now. 455 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 I know, I know. I don't know what it's doing. It's going through every menu possible. 456 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 They're getting up. 457 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 I really can't. 458 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 I can't see it. 459 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 I can't see it. 460 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 I can't see it. 461 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 They're getting up. 462 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 I really can't. 463 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Jesus. 464 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 One, two, four. 465 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Definitely four pairs of eyes. 466 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Okay, okay, okay. 467 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 It's freezing on me. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 468 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I see some blinking lights, dude. 469 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Oh my God. 470 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Is that it right there? 471 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Oh, oh, I see it now. 472 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Jesus. 473 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 What? 474 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Four pairs of eyes right there at the tree land. 475 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Eyes? 476 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Multiple pairs. 477 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 I cannot get this flare working right now. 478 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 I could really use that right now. 479 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 I know, I know. I don't know what it's doing. It's going through every menu possible. 480 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 They're getting up. 481 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 What are we looking at? 482 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 And? 483 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Oh yeah, those are cows. 484 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 She's just f***ing gone. Those are cows. 485 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 The good news is, if we have cows, 486 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 we may have mutilated cows. 487 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I'm going to move closer to the cattle 488 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 to see what we can find. 489 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Oh, f***. 490 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 What did you see? 491 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Jesus, look at that. 492 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Oh my God. 493 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Those are definitely massive cat prints. 494 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Oh yeah, look at the talons on the front of those guys. 495 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Yup. 496 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 It's like a 150 pound cat. 497 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Oh my God, look at it. 498 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Why is it holding so much heat? 499 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Because it's fresh. 500 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Oh my God, there are two sizes. 501 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Look at that. 502 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 There's that little one and then that. 503 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yes. 504 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 And children, which is the worst scenario possible. 505 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 They go up and down this road. 506 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Way too exposed here. 507 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Look at the brush. 508 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 This is an ambush. 509 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 You can come from any angle. 510 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Oh yeah. 511 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 You've got coverage. 512 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 It's cored through. 513 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 I'll go stand next to a volcano, 514 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 but I sure as f*** don't like being stalked. 515 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 You know me. I'm about the data, 516 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 but you can't collect any data when you're dinner. 517 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 You know James, the heads up. 518 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I'm going to come in later. 519 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 James, unfortunately we found 520 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,000 very, very fresh mountain lion prints. 521 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Well, chances are that mountain lion 522 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 knows exactly where you guys are. 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 It's not funny, James. 524 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 It's not funny and you're also 525 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 by the water line. 526 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 True that, but Chuck's packing. 527 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 I just saw something reflect off my flashlight. 528 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Did you hear something? 529 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Yep. 530 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 They're going to come right down this slope. 531 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Coming right up. 532 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Chuck has got a message for you. 533 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Don't run. Don't run. 534 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Just back out slowly and then 535 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 I'll just leave you alone. 536 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Great. No, let's get that out of here. 537 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 No f***. 538 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 You know. 539 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 With a map, 540 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 I'm going to go to the other side of the road. 541 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 I'm going to go to the other side of the road. 542 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 With a mountain lion nearby, 543 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 it was just too dangerous to continue. 544 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 So we had to call it a night. 545 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Some locals believe that UFOs 546 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 are not only coming to Colorado 547 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 to abduct cattle, 548 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 but they're also here abducting humans. 549 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 In fact, 550 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 nearby is a man 551 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 who claims to be a multiple abductee 552 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 that is visited frequently. 553 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 He claims that he's actually captured footage 554 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 of one of these abductors. 555 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 This is 556 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 video footage that Stan 557 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Romanek shot from inside his house 558 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 of what he says 559 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 and what other people say 560 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 is an extraterrestrial being 561 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 outside his window. 562 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000 On the ground. 563 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 You're saying he captured an alien 564 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 on video. 565 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 That is what we've been told 566 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 and that's what the video shows. 567 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Is he selling the video? 568 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Is he making any money off this video? 569 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 No. 570 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 So there's no sort of 571 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 incentive for him to... 572 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 No. 573 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 This would be very expensive 574 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 and time-consuming to create. 575 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 I saw Stan Romanek's video 576 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 and I immediately thought, 577 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 really, 578 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 I'm open 579 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 to finding out more. 580 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 I haven't completely dismissed it yet. 581 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 I'm not saying that this video, 582 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 in particular, do I believe 100% 583 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 is a real extraterrestrial, 584 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 but I can say that it is not 585 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 a person in a mouth. 586 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 It doesn't strike me immediately as CG, 587 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000 but I'm not necessarily convinced 588 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 it's not somebody in a mask. 589 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 The eyes blink. 590 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Truthfully, the alien video looked a lot like 591 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 a poke to mask up and 592 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000 you know, it dropped back down. 593 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 People say they see the eyes blink. 594 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Maybe I see that. It's awful grainy. 595 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 But still, nothing you couldn't do 596 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 with, you know, even an articulated, 597 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 slightly articulating something with your hand. 598 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Since then, he believes that he's not 599 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000 only had multiple encounters with UFOs 600 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 in the sky following his car, following him, 601 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 but he's had multiple 602 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 encounters with extraterrestrials 603 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 that have come to his house, that he has 604 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 drawings of, that he's been abducted 605 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 multiple times. 606 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 It's a fascinating case and I think it definitely bears 607 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 investigation. 608 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 I try to keep an open mind, 609 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 so I'm not jumping to any conclusions 610 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 until we actually meet stand and find out 611 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 what's going on. 612 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Interesting thing was, I was a real aggressive skeptic. 613 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Now I seem to be the poster child 614 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 for the strange and unusual. 615 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 I would love to talk a little bit about the evidence 616 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 and, you know, the encounters that you've actually 617 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000 had with ETs. 618 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Yeah. 619 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Beautiful one your day. 620 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000 I went to get about 11 o'clock. 621 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 I went to go see who it was. 622 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 I went to see who it was. 623 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 At the door were three people, 624 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 a female and two males. 625 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 These things have very huge, 626 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 very slanted, almond shaped blue eyes. 627 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Their eyes were so blue they were almost 628 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 violent. 629 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 And the female came forward and grabbed my wrist. 630 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000 I felt this excruciating pain 631 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 on my lower back. 632 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 And I woke up the next morning 633 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000 just convinced I had some kind of 634 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 horrible nightmare. 635 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 And I felt these holes in my back. 636 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 And they were fresh holes. 637 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 This photograph for you? 638 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Yeah, yeah. 639 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 The lower back. 640 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Oh my gosh. 641 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Well, I looked down. 642 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Not only did I have holes in my back, 643 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 but all the hair was rubbed off my wrist 644 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 and I had these wounds on my wrist. 645 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 I totally lost it. 646 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 I mean, I was balling, I was shaking. 647 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 You asked them, why me? 648 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Why me? What do you want from me? 649 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000 It's not like they... 650 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Can you ask those questions? 651 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 I don't think they really care. 652 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Why? 653 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 And is this why you started doing some surveillance? 654 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Stuff kept happening, kept happening, kept happening. 655 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 The big one, though, 656 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 July 17, 2003. 657 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Now, what's interesting 658 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 is you can actually see the infrared 659 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000 and the black-eyed retina. 660 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Man, look at that little critter. 661 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Any blinks in these squints? 662 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 We had the way he shoots down like that. 663 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 He saw me coming and he dropped down 664 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 because he saw me coming. 665 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 What did you do right now? 666 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 When I saw it, I ran upstairs to get my wife 667 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 because I saw that thing running away. 668 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Where did you see it running away? 669 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 To backyard. 670 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 There appears to be something odd going on 671 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000 at Stan Roman's house. 672 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000 This is a classic case where he's either hoaxing 673 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 or he's being visited by aliens. 674 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000 It's hard for my first suspicion to not be that it's staged. 675 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000 So I think we definitely need to see if we can't capture 676 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000 some of the stuff that Stan claims is happening to him. 677 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 So I've got multiple views. 678 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 The ones I'm most interested in are 679 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 the camera-looking-out-Stan's window. 680 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 And then we've got the South Gate. 681 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Stan said he's going to do his best 682 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 to have us invite something in, 683 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 but we'll see what happens. 684 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000 All right, keep going. 685 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 We're going to get the camera. 686 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 We're going to get the camera. 687 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Okay, good. 688 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 All right, keep in touch. 689 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Unable to cover all the sightings areas with cameras, 690 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 we decided to split up. 691 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Ben would head north to do a radiation test, 692 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000 while Stan and I would head south 693 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000 to an area of a most recent encounter. 694 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 All right, you ready to do this? 695 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Yes. 696 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 I hope we catch something. 697 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Yeah, me too. 698 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 You know, there's a common misconception 699 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,000 that you have to be a millinowar to see something. 700 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Our experience proves that you can be anywhere and see something. 701 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000 Just under 15 micro-arper hour, 702 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 unless you had some activation of the concrete 703 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000 by some sort of nearby fishing reactor, 704 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000 neutron pulse or something, 705 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,000 not expecting anything, 706 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000 but we could pull it out. 707 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 I don't know if anything's actually going on in the house, 708 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000 but allegedly that's where everything's going on. 709 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Stan, look, do you see it? 710 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 What the hell is that? 711 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 That's not the plane. 712 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 It's got to be, right? 713 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Well, because it's too big. It's a disc. 714 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Oh. 715 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Hey, uh, Ryder, it's James. 716 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Yeah, copy that. You seeing something? 717 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000 I am. 718 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Am I soft? 719 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Oh, it's doing it now. 720 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000 The camera is facing the south. 721 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 The resolution is compromised, 722 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000 and it's been flickering on and off. 723 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 That's what happens. That's how it starts. 724 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 What is that? 725 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Oh, what is that? 726 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Oh. 727 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Hey, Ryder, it's James. 728 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Yeah, copy that. You seeing something? 729 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000 I am. 730 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 My son. 731 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Oh, it's doing it now. 732 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 The camera is facing the south. 733 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Angela's fence there, 734 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 where she claimed to have seen that empty four months ago. 735 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000 The resolution is compromised, 736 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000 and it's been flickering on and off. 737 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 That's what happens. That's how it starts. 738 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 And unfortunately, that's how it starts. 739 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 For whatever reason, that's typical when they show up. 740 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 They'll affect the energy. 741 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000 They'll affect anything electrical. 742 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 He says that's pretty typical when they show up. 743 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000 They affect the energy and anything electrical. 744 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Okay, everyone, we're on high alert. 745 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Things like this have happened in the past 746 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 when Stan's been visited, 747 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 and he thinks that they might be here. 748 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Copy that. 749 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 James, the band, come in over. 750 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,000 That's where Stan thinks all the action is. 751 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 O'ryan the Hunter. 752 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,000 I'm sure it would be nice if one of these 753 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000 little critters would jump out. 754 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Well, first contact. 755 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 I'm sure it would be nice if one of these 756 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000 little critters would jump out. 757 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Well, first contact. 758 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 You'll be happy to know you are not 759 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000 radioactive above background. 760 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Does anyone notice the street lamp go off? 761 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 James, the rider, come in. 762 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Go ahead, James. 763 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 I lost video contact with Ben. 764 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 If it keeps up and you haven't heard from him 765 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000 in the next five minutes, 766 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 definitely let me know, and we'll head back there. 767 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Where's Ben? 768 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000 He went south. 769 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000 The complete opposite direction down the street. 770 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Hmm. 771 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Hey, rider, uh... 772 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000 I'm coming. One more time, Miss James. 773 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 Go ahead, James. 774 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000 You know, the gate, the south gate. 775 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 You guys left it wide open, now it's shut. 776 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Who did that over? 777 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Hooray. 778 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 We weren't over there. 779 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Mark all the time codes down so we can go back 780 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 and analyze that stuff, but don't stop recording. 781 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Definitely don't stop recording. 782 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000 Oh, get the f*** out of here. 783 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Just kind of look out for any of God. 784 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 It's kind of like pulsing in a way. 785 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Yeah. 786 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000 Oh, get the f*** out of here. 787 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000 That didn't just happen. 788 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Rider? 789 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 He's on the... 790 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Rider. 791 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Go ahead, James. 792 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Somebody's got to be playing a joke on me right now. 793 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 James, we are so far away. 794 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 I don't know what's going on. 795 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Let's get headed back. 796 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000 James, come in. 797 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 James. 798 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 James, James, do you copy? 799 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 What's going on, James? 800 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 There's a f***ing alien looking into the goddamn window of the office. 801 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Right now. There just was. 802 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 It's outside right now in the office. 803 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000 I don't believe him. Really? 804 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Are you sure that's what you saw? 805 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Are you positive? 806 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000 1,000% positive. Over. 807 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 But you sure it wasn't one of the cats or, you know, 808 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 anything blowing by? 809 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Rider? 810 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 I know what I saw. 811 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000 So maybe given to wonder what it is I'm doing out here, 812 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 it's not to scare James, 813 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 nor is it to make fun of Stan, 814 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000 where testing what a mask actually looks like on camera. 815 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Relax, relax. It was me. 816 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 No way. 817 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000 I tell you, I heard you yell outside. 818 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Did you really? I did. 819 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Thought I saw what appeared to be an alien. 820 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000 Yeah, but I wasn't sure. 821 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Nobody made it to me straight. 822 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 That's why I called you out here. 823 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000 We both present a different sort of skeptical side. 824 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 You lean a little more toward things are happening. 825 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 I lean a little more toward things aren't. 826 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 But even with that, in the heat of the moment, 827 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 you don't have much time to process. 828 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Even a mask was convincing enough to get you to go, 829 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,000 I have to confess, you really do look like an alien. 830 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000 At first glance, Ben's little test looked a lot like 831 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000 what I'd seen with Stan Romanek's video. 832 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000 But now, quite honestly, I don't know what to think. 833 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Once we returned home from Salida and the surrounding areas, 834 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000 we dug right into the evidence. 835 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Let's start looking through some of the Colorado evidence here. 836 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000 So, guys, this in my view, as someone who's researched UFOs 837 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,000 for nearly 20 years, is some of the best footage of a UFO I've seen. 838 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Doesn't look like a solid object. 839 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000 I know that there's something about this that bothers you. 840 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000 What is it? 841 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Even looking at it right now. 842 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000 So, you see how there appear to be these dots moving left to right. 843 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Hold your eye on one, and it's almost like it stays in the same spot 844 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000 as this thing drags over. 845 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000 The way it jiggles with the camera, but not with the house. 846 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000 To me, it looks almost alive. 847 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,000 The Tim Edwards UFO video is one of the best videos in existence, 848 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 in my view. 849 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000 There's zero doubt in my mind that this is a bona fide UFO 850 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000 captured on videotape over Salida, Colorado. 851 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Well, let's talk about the bone and soil samples you collected 852 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 while out in the field. 853 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000 I haven't seen anything that indicates anything extra-trestrial at all. 854 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Well, the ranchers have said, look, there's no footprints around the cow, 855 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000 there's no indication of struggle, there's no blood splatter. 856 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000 That's weird. 857 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000 I still think there's a lot of jumping to conclusions going on 858 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,000 with cattle mutilations. 859 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000 I'm really skeptical that there's anything about these mutilations 860 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000 that couldn't have been caused by a natural predator 861 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 or diseases we're not familiar with, things like that. 862 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Okay. 863 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Well, I know you guys have been dying to see this. 864 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Let's do the comparison with Stan's video of the alien in the window 865 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000 and Ben's video. 866 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Oh, my God. 867 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000 To me, I can't tell much of a difference, actually. 868 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000 Other than the eyes moving, you can clearly see eyes moving. 869 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000 I believe there's a physical object outside that window. 870 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,000 Oh, no question. 871 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,000 I think we can't see that. 872 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 But I don't think you can rule out a mask. 873 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,000 Certainly, even an advanced one is more likely than invoking interstellar travel. 874 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000 I mean, it raises a lot of questions. 875 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000 This is mysterious to me, and I don't think we've come up with an answer 876 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000 enough for me to say that this is a mask. 877 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,000 I, unlike many people, don't think this video is a mask. 878 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,000 A mask can't have blinking eyes and reflection in them. 879 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,000 It just can't. 880 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000 So I'm leaving Colorado with a lot of unanswered questions.